31. Word Witchery, the Ancestors, & Tarot - Sanyu Estelle

Why to always work with the ancestors first, diving deep into the meaning of the words we use, and more...

In the Intro:

  • A word about this podcast

  • November Tarot Forecast

  • The best bio ever

In the Interview:

  • The power of words & etymological knowledge

  • Ancestral migratory paths

  • The history of "queer" & being multisexual

  • Sanyu's Belizean and Ugandan roots

  • Why to work with our ancestors first and foremost

  • What it looks like when a genealogy/research nerd pieces together an ancestor's life

  • Placing our forebears in the wider socio-historical context of their times: discovering a great-grandmother's life through understanding colonialism and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade

  • The feeling of being the first generation in a new land 

  • The ancestors & Tarot

  • Being claircognizant 

  • When illness is a spiritually energetic leveling up

  • The interweaving of Christianity and spiritualism

  • Working with dreams

  • Opening yourself to the wisdom & weirdness of the multiverse

  • Naming things collapses possibilities

  • Taoism rules

  • The Plant Alchemy Deck

Links:

SanyuEstelle.com

Life as Ceremony Magazine

My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Magical Herb is Your Spirit Medicine? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

30. The Innate Intelligence of the Immune System - Cilla Whatcott

Real immunity is not gotten from a pill or a needle- it’s not a one time thing that comes from outside us, but an ongoing process that develops over time and springs from the vital intelligence of the human body.

In the Intro:

  • Love + Immunity

  • The incredible complexity of the human body

  • The Health Helix

In the Interview:

  • How the death of her mother sparked a teenage Cilla's interest in natural health, and how a dream visit from her mom decades later led her to the work she's doing now

  • How modern medicine disempowers parents and dismisses the instinctive knowing mothers have about their own children

  • MAMA- no one loves or observes your child as much as you do. You are your child's healer. Trust yourself.

  • What happened in 1989 that shifted public consciousness around health & self empowerment

  • The false vaxxer/anti-vaxxer dichotomy

  • How homeoprophylaxis (HP) educates the immune system by echoing how nature works

  • We each have particular disease susceptibilities

  • What happened when I gave my daughters their first dose of homeopathic varicella (chicken pox)

  • The Pathogen v The Terrain

  • Microbes have been here a lot longer than we have and we must co-exist with them mindfully

  • The important healing work of fever, runny nose, and other symptoms and how suppressing these processes shuts down the vital force and drives disease deeper

  • Cilla shines some light on my constant childhood ear infections

  • The connection between immunity and emotions- boundaries, repression, and expression

  • The developmental leaps children make after being allowed to overcome disease on their own

  • Herd immunity cannot be created artificially 

  • The success that the Indian and Cuban governments have had with HP

  • Action steps for how to best support innate immune intelligence

In the Outro:

  • The three myths we assume are true when we talk about vaccines

  • Cell mediated v humoral immunity

  • The autoimmune disease epidemic

  • When measles came to my daughter's school

  • Our family's recent experience with pertussis (whooping cough)

  • A deeper look at herd immunity: chicken pox/shingles, pertussis, and measles

Links:

CillaWhatcott.com

My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

Vaccines, Autoimmunity, and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illness by Thomas Cowan, MD

Miller's Review of Critical Vaccine Studies by Neil Z. Miller

Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk

The Vaccine Trade Off episode of the Wise Traditions podcast

High Dose Vitamin C for Pertussis webpage by Dr. Suzanne Humphries

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Magical Herb is Your Spirit Medicine? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

29. Otherworld Openings: When the Ancestors Call

In which I ramble about some of my ancestral resonances, the blocks I've had around exploring parts of my heritage, and what happens when we step through the portal to the Otherworld and let the magic in...

  • When different lineages call- following what pulls me in the moment

  • My deep ancestry in the American south, and the sense of home I feel even though I've never been there

  • Embarrassing confession: my first concert

  • Connecting to our ancestors through music and dance

  • My DNA results, how they've changed over time, and a comparison between the 3 different autosomal tests I've done (Ancestry.com, FamilyTreeDNA, LivingDNA) 

  • The best time to buy a DNA test

  • The 5th great grandparents I just found through Ancestry's cool new feature DNA Circles

  • A killer resource for old books on genealogy & myth/lore

  • Finding the meaning of surnames

  • When the portal to the Otherworld opens

  • A message for you from the archetype of the Seer

   

Links:

My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Magical Herb is Your Spirit Medicine? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

Forgotten Books

Ancestry.com's Surname Origins page

The Wildwood Tarot

 My 5th great grandmother, Millie Gilliland, born in North Carolina in 1800

My 5th great grandmother, Millie Gilliland, born in North Carolina in 1800

25. Self Attunement & the New Myths We're Making - Maia Toll

Herbalism is vast, the second song of a plant, a powerful stone medicine story, and more...

Maia Toll spent a life-changing year apprenticed to a traditional medicine woman in Ireland. She mentors spiritual wellness seekers, practitioners, and teachers through her online program, The Medicine Keepers Collective, and is the founder and owner of Herbiary, a natural products store with locations in Asheville, North Carolina, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Maia has taught botanical medicine at West Chester University and at the Amazon Center for Environmental Education and Research in the Peruvian jungle. She lectures at hospitals, universities, and herbal conferences and runs her own Deep Magic Retreat in the North Carolina mountains during the witchy twilight of autumn. She blogs to an international following at maiatoll.com and lives in Asheville, North Carolina.   

In the Intro:

  • Coming into relationship with nature

  • Become a kitchen witch

  • Herbalism is vast

In the Interview:

  • The layers within

  • A fantastical Herbal 

  • Opening to the second song of a plant 

  • How a health problem, an unraveling life, and a dream message set Maia on the plant path 

  • Apprenticing to a medicine woman in Ireland 

  • When having a diagnosis isn’t helpful

  • Deep self attunement for stopping illness before it becomes too big

  • A major weakness herbalists face when we’re ill 

  • The Healing Relationship

  • Stone medicine & a story of healing with morganite 

  •  How we create the sacred 

  • A meaningful swan sighting, union & transformation, and the myth of Caer

  • We talk about how neither of us wanted to get married and now we’re both wives, and also the stories of our wedding rings

Links:

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19. Reclaiming Kitchen Wisdom & Ancestral Healing - Darla Antoine

Calling in the grandmothers! The more dependent we are on the industrialized food system- and the more entranced we are by diet culture- the further removed we are from our ancestors. Food is a bridge between the land, our bodies, and those whose bodies we come from.

Darla Antoine is a mixed race Okanagan tribal member, ancestral activist and healer, mother and accidental homesteader in the high mountains of Costa Rica. Darla helps mixed-race and mixed-culture seekers become rooted into place and lineage by combining her master's degree in food and culture, ancestral healing and her own experiences as a mixed race woman and expat.

In the Intro:

  • My unexpected, super transformative, podcast hiatus: shingles and a family emergency

  • Fat is love (and an absolutely necessary nutrient for the brain & every single cell in the body)

  • Giveaway!

In the Interview:

  • Ancestry that’s deeply embedded in the land

  • The Grandmother Hypothesis

  • How diet culture keeps us separated from our ancestors

  • Disordered eating & how the fear of fat is pushing us away from what it means to be human

  • To learn about your ancestor’s lives, look below the level of empire (& what that means)

  • Reclaiming kitchen wisdom as an act of resistance against the dominant, patriarchal, industrial food system

  • The medicine that people of mixed race are bringing to the world right now

  • Dreams as guideposts

  • A mythic matriarchal dreamscape

  • Charting serendipity: When you’re in the right story, nothing doesn’t fit

Links:

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14. Reclaiming Yourself Through Nature & the Ancestors - Vicky Salcido-Cobbe

Our human roots go deep, both into the earth and into the past, and we cannot know ourselves if we don't know our roots. Yet most of us in the modern West feel adrift, cut off from those things which fundamentally belong to us and which have always sustained humanity. This sense of isolation and the loss of meaning causes us to feel lost, bereft, without purpose.

A lived, daily relationship with the natural world and an embodied connection with our ancestors are the birthright of every one of us, and more and more of us are reclaiming ourselves by reclaiming these simple, sacred things.

Vicky Salcido-Cobbe is an herbalist, gardener, teacher, writer, and the proud daughter of Mexican immigrants. After years of feeling lost to herself and engaging in self-destructive habits, her life changed in an instant when a clinician offered her a bottle of herbal extract as medicine. She and her husband Russ now work with the land to create small-scale remedies for their herbal apothecary La Tierra Buena Collective (formerly Grandmother’s Medicine.)

In the Intro:

  • The usual, plus my crying toddler

  • Herbal Medicine Giveaway from Vicky!

  • Sorry not sorry

In the Interview:

  • Names as seeds planted by our parents

  • The years Vicky was lost to herself (with some drugs and tall cans), and how she found herself again (with the moon and tall trees)

  • How having big, mystical experiences without proper integration can cause more confusion and pain 

  • How nature and the ancestors have always sustained humanity, why we feel so bereft when we lose connection with them, and how we find ourselves when we rekindle those relationships

  • How this suburban SoCal girl stumbled upon the plant path- “herbalism was the way I reclaimed myself”

  • The realities of running an herbal products business

  • (Random segue into One Weird Use for Breastmilk)

  • Dreaming about Wal-Mart (& what it means when you have mostly mundane dreams)

  • Vicky gets really really real about the evolution of her sexuality- masturbation, porn, the shameful stuff we don’t like to talk about in our culture- and being extremely candid with her husband now that she's figuring herself out

  • 70s v 90s porn

  • Why the dominant image and dynamic of women needing to please men and get their approval in order to gain entrance into a sexual relationship is the opposite of reality, the opposite of biology in most animal species, including humans, and is a dangerous paradigm that upends nature and hurts girls, women, boys, men, and everyone else

  • Vicky’s recent transition from embodying the maiden to mother archetype (without having physically birthed children)

Show Notes:

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10. Living in Your Ancestral Human Body - Katy Bowman

Birth and death are the bookends that mark every human life, and in them and in between them there is movement. Our ancestors moved in a variety of ways throughout their days- foraging, hunting, seeking new landscapes, building shelter, birthing and carrying children, breastfeeding, processing food, finding water, etc. Physiologically, we are the exact same species; our bodies are identical to those of our prehistoric forebears.

Our biology hasn't changed, but our culture and physical environments have. Today, even the most active among us are mostly sedentary, and exercisers have just as many health problems and experience just as much injury as non-exercisers. We don't need more exercise (yay!), we need more MOVEMENT.

A biomechanist by training and a problem-solver at heart, Katy Bowman is radically changing our assumptions about what it means to live in an ancient human body in a modern and ever-changing world. She makes movement fun and shows people how to integrate it into every aspect of their lives. Her award-winning blog and podcast, Move Your DNA, reach hundreds of thousands of people every month, and thousands have taken her live classes. Her funny, wise, life-changing books have been critically acclaimed and translated worldwide.

In the Intro:

  • How Katy's work changed my concept of myself & what I'm capable of

  • Giveaway, Upcoming Event, etc.

  • Herb Learnin'- herbs are not "pseudo pharmaceuticals"

In the Interview:

  • Ancestral movement: stepping outside ourselves and looking at the wide scope of human time

  • Exercise as monoculture and movement as permaculture

  • Stacking your life- integrating movement into everything else

  • Finding your own roots (not someone else’s), and why 2018 is the year Katie finds her ancestors

  • Katy’s connection to the great-grandmother she was named after

  • Self reliance and how we’re shaped by the times we live in

  • The recent unassisted home death of Katy’s father, and the parallels Katy saw between that and birth

  • The many other deaths in Katy’s life within a 12 month period and how her movement practice kept her in a state of grace throughout the process

  • Movement as a metabolizer of stress and emotions

  • Bringing movement into grief- wailing, keening, caring for the body, (pallbearing!)

  • Keep moving because “there’s always another wave coming”

  • Katy’s recurring whale dream and the moment she lived it in real life

  • Reverence for the capacity and consciousness of cetaceans

  • Katy helps me break through my limited thinking around some of the things I spend most of my time doing (while sitting still)

  • The conscious practice of paying attention to what captures your imagination

Links:

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9. Know Thyself: Weaving Myth & Magic Into Everyday Life - Ariella Daly

Here's the secret about magic: it's not elusive, it's not hard to find, and it's everywhere. Magic happens when we follow the mythic threads that call to our soul and travel ever deeper into ourselves. We court magic when we take our inner yearnings seriously- by paying attention to dreams, symbols, old stories, ancestry, etc.-  and more & more meaning and synchronicity become woven into the fabric of our daily lives.

Ariella is a beekeeper, musician, and storyteller.  A student of the Path of Pollen, she has studied honey bee shamanism and the way of the Melissae for the past 8 years in the United Kingdom. She developed an interested in earth wisdom at an early age, creating her first herb garden and herbal remedies at the age of 15.  Plant lore and an affinity for traditional folk music led her to study the myth and folk wisdom of her Celtic ancestry.  As a result, she has over 25 years experience designing, leading, and participating in Celtic and earth-based practices and ceremony.  She believes in the power of body as guide and nature as ally, and is committed to fostering relationships between the human and non-human world.  She employs her skills with group facilitation in a number of workshops and classes focused on beekeeping, dreamwork, and women's embodied wisdom.  

In the Intro:

  • Dreamwork

  • Me, my birthday, my dead mom, & something meaningful that happened

  • Herb Learnin’- the myth of precise dosage

  • Finding plant resonances

In the Interview:

  • The beautiful stories behind the meaning of Ariella’s name

  • How the tales her father told her as a child planted a seed that started Ari following the mythic threads of her Celtic ancestry a decade later and inspired many pilgrimages to her ancestral countries

  • Reclaiming the lost indigenous and women’s wisdom from your line

  • The grief of displacement and how our animal bodies recognize our ancestral homelands

  • Ariella’s devastating miscarriage and the lessons and healing that followed (including how her lost daughter brought the bees into her life) and how our biggest traumas are what we weave our gold out of

  • Ari’s initiation into ancestral, shamanic beekeeping

  • Folklore & magic of place: that feeling when the fae folk/spirits of the land appear and offer you entrance to the Otherworld as you’re standing at midnight on a sacred hill at Glastonbury that centuries of lore say is a powerful portal (a true story)

  • Raven meaning & medicine

  • Spontaneous, heart-opening healing: “the piece of me that left came back in”

  • “My whole life has been led by listening to the animals and plants”

  • Embodying your ancestry through story, music, the land

  • How to study and work with Ari

Links:

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7. The Motherline: Embodied Ancestry & Feminine Magic - Lara Veleda Vesta

The scrolls are in our bones, and an embodied relationship with our ancestors can bring countless rewards and reveal things a merely intellectual path cannot. Through myth, ritual, and creative expression we can remember the feminine magic of our grandmothers and reap their blessings.

Lara Veleda Vesta is an artist, writer, and educator with strong, well tended ties to her Northern European ancestors. Her works and offerings focus on folk spirituality, archaic magic, mythology, ritual, and women’s remembrance. Our conversation runs deep and meanders from the cultural legacy of the burning times to the language of symbol to the nature of fate to the illusion of linear time and its effect on our modern lives to mold toxicity to snake medicine. And so much more!

-In the Intro:

Garden Party Giveaway!

The status of the podcast

Healing the Witch Wound

Herbal Tip: plant recognition & the human brain

 

-In the Interview:

The Motherline- intergenerational trauma, we’re all descended from survivors, and we are never separate from our ancestors

“Things are real and not real simultaneously”

Ancestral connection as an embodied path: connecting with the ancestors via direct information from your intuition, art, and ritual

The scrolls are in our bones: the ancestral dream that changed my life

Listening to the language of symbol

Hyndla- goddess of the bloodlines (let's bring her back!)

The woven web of Wyrd- the matrix of existence

Fate is interactive, time is non-linear, everything is happening simultaneously

The Disir- support, guidance, and blessings from the sacred grandmothers of your lineage

Go sit on your ancestors graves (for real tho)

Collapsing time and shifting consciousness 

How linear time separates us from nature, the ancestors, myth, and indigenous ways of knowing

"Get off the grid of your thinking"

The multiplicity of reasons you are never alone

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, mold toxicity, and invisible disabilities

Disregarding cultural expectations: exhaustion, trauma, and illness in women (especially at midlife)

The ancient Northern myth of Golveig- “Thrice burned and yet she lives”- and what it can teach us about feminine power, magic, surviving patriarchy, and healing after pain and trauma

Snake medicine & feminine magic

 

-Links:

Lara’s website

The Wild Soul School

Lara’s Patreon

Max Dashu and The Suppressed Histories Archives

Jung and the Ancestors by Sandra Easter

My blog post Ancestral Voices, Women's Weariness, & the Illusion of Linear Time

The New Midlife Crisis for Women on Oprah.com

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4. Multidimensional Plants & the Fabric of Consciousness - Asia Suler

There are countless medicinal plants and fungi out there, and among them are a special class of vision-enhancing gatekeepers to the Otherworld. These beings can expand our consciousness and allow us to perceive more than our physical senses can normally detect.

Asia Suler of One Willow Apothecaries is an herbalist, educator, and writer with a deeply layered, highly intuitive relationship to the medicine of the earth. Her incredible way with words and ability to convey complex subjects with ease have made her a highly sought after herbal teacher (lucky for us she has many online courses!). I love the plant haling and consciousness exploring aspects of our talk, but I also *really* love our conversational foray into living under patriarchy and why the nice girl trope has to die.

In the intro:

  • Bear medicine

  • My ancient ice age grandmother & the Saami

  • Herbal Tip - drawing salves

  • "The center is the goal, and everything is directed toward that center"

In the interview:

  • How Asia’s full name is "a pretty perfect etymological encapsulation of what I ended up doing with my life”

  • Journeying to ancestral lands & how the ancestors are in the land (literally tho)

  • The fabric of the Otherworld: the limits of our senses, atomic space, the playground of consciousness, and dark matter

  • Dream visitations from the dead

  • Angelica: a visionary plant / opens portals of imagination / releasing trauma & coming in to our bodies

  • Reishi as a psychedelic, and the untapped potential of the subtle

  • Asia’s encounter with a creepy dude in the woods, #MeToo, and how being a nice girl is no longer a good evolutionary strategy for staying safe

  • Ghost Pipe as a tool for releasing ghosts

Links:

Asia's website, One Willow Apothecaries

Sylvia Lindsteadt

Sean Donahue

Rainbow Heart Beams Elixir

The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker (READ IT)

Mythic Medicinals herbals

Which Magical Herb is Your Spirit Medicine? quiz

Medicine Stories Facebook Group

Medicine Stories Patreon

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3. Becoming the Medicine & Seeing the Wide Arc of Time - Sophia Rose

There is a wider reality behind and beyond the everyday world, and Sophia Rose's approach to plant medicine and healing reflects this in myriad ways. From using herbs in dream work to incorporating plant smoke in ritual to connecting with departed loved ones through flowers, the natural world provides countless doorways into the unseen.

Sophia Rose is a clinically trained and magically minded folk herbalist, word weaver, and educator based in Austin, Texas. Through the long-running La Abeja Herbs and her new project Garden Party, her writing is medicine to the soul and her plant potions are medicine to the body for thousands of people worldwide. I am honored to bring some of Sophia's personal story medicine to more folks with this interview.

We talk about:

  • The archetypal energy of datura (moonflower)

  • We are holographic representations of plants

  • Dreaming with herbs

  • Working with smoke medicine

  • Seeing the wide arc of time

  • Sophia’s healing journey after a friend’s suicide

  • Intuitive grieving and grief as a sacred responsibility

  • Sophia’s radical reconceptualization of what death is

  • The last ancestor who had a whole heart

  • Your name is your first lesson

  • We work with plant medicine so that we can become the medicine

Links:

Garden Party

La Abeja Herbs

Music by Mariee Sioux (from the song Wild Eyes)

Mythic Medicinals herbals

Which Magical Herb is Your Spirit Medicine? quiz

Medicine Stories Facebook Group

Medicine Stories Patreon

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2. Lost Lineages & Ever Evolving Lore - Milla Prince

As people and communities move and change with time, stories evolve and lineages are lost. But information always goes where it needs to in order to survive and resurface again when needed. Ancestral stories can guide us on our paths, and lost lineages can be remembered.

Milla Prince is an herbalist, writer, and teacher who moved from Finland, where she had been deeply immersed since childhood in ancestral plant lore from that intact tradition, to the west coast of America about 10 years ago. Her blog, newsletter, Instagram account, Fireweed & Nettle herbal medicines, and The Cauldron zine reach tens of thousands of people each month. But I knew her when... and we talk about how funny that when was, as well as touching on a large range of other topics.

We talk about:

  • The unexpected internet subculture that first brought us together

  • Bear lore and the myth that spans the northern lands and shapes Milla’s online identity

  • Baba Yaga arising in the collective consciousness right now

  • The dream that guided Milla to change her work in the world

  • The circuitous paths we take when finding ourselves

  • Ancestral medicine & being indigenous to a place

  • Cultural appropriation as a symptom of spiritual longing

  • #witch #ancestry #medicine and mimetic expression online (evolving lore!)

  • The trauma of the burning times

  • Working with ancestral lines that are lost to you

Links:

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