32. Having Cancer, Facing Grief, & Choosing Your Own Healing Path - Tara Coyote

Choosing an unconventional treatment route for a disease that scares us all, what it looks like when you really face your grief, and a beautiful story of ancestral echoes, connections, and healing.

In the Intro:

  • Only you know the healing path that's right for you

  • Defining "alternative medicine" & (yet another) plea for nuanced thinking

  • The metabolic approach to cancer

In the Interview:

  • Meeting at the Death Cafe

  • How Tara came to choose the cancer treatments that she did, and what her protocol looks like

  • Apitherapy: the medicinal properties of bee venom

  • Healing with horses

  • Being embodied during grief and the power of grief rituals 

  • The gifts of a cancer diagnosis

  • Feeling your ancestry in the earth

  • The uncanny echoes between the lives of Tara and the grandmother she never knew, and a discussion of intergenerational trauma and healing

  • Dealing with a major life disruption in the midst of a cancer journey

Show Notes:

31. Word Witchery, the Ancestors, & Tarot - Sanyu Estelle

Why to always work with the ancestors first, diving deep into the meaning of the words we use, and more...

In the Intro:

  • A word about this podcast

  • November Tarot Forecast

  • The best bio ever

In the Interview:

  • The power of words & etymological knowledge

  • Ancestral migratory paths

  • The history of "queer" & being multisexual

  • Sanyu's Belizean and Ugandan roots

  • Why to work with our ancestors first and foremost

  • What it looks like when a genealogy/research nerd pieces together an ancestor's life

  • Placing our forebears in the wider socio-historical context of their times: discovering a great-grandmother's life through understanding colonialism and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade

  • The feeling of being the first generation in a new land 

  • The ancestors & Tarot

  • Being claircognizant 

  • When illness is a spiritually energetic leveling up

  • The interweaving of Christianity and spiritualism

  • Working with dreams

  • Opening yourself to the wisdom & weirdness of the multiverse

  • Naming things collapses possibilities

  • Taoism rules

  • The Plant Alchemy Deck



Life as Ceremony Magazine

My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Healing Herb is your Plant Familiar? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

30. The Innate Intelligence of the Immune System - Cilla Whatcott

Real immunity is not gotten from a pill or a needle- it’s not a one time thing that comes from outside us, but an ongoing process that develops over time and springs from the vital intelligence of the human body.

In the Intro:

  • Love + Immunity

  • The incredible complexity of the human body

  • The Health Helix

In the Interview:

  • How the death of her mother sparked a teenage Cilla's interest in natural health, and how a dream visit from her mom decades later led her to the work she's doing now

  • How modern medicine disempowers parents and dismisses the instinctive knowing mothers have about their own children

  • MAMA- no one loves or observes your child as much as you do. You are your child's healer. Trust yourself.

  • What happened in 1989 that shifted public consciousness around health & self empowerment

  • The false vaxxer/anti-vaxxer dichotomy

  • How homeoprophylaxis (HP) educates the immune system by echoing how nature works

  • We each have particular disease susceptibilities

  • What happened when I gave my daughters their first dose of homeopathic varicella (chicken pox)

  • The Pathogen v The Terrain

  • Microbes have been here a lot longer than we have and we must co-exist with them mindfully

  • The important healing work of fever, runny nose, and other symptoms and how suppressing these processes shuts down the vital force and drives disease deeper

  • Cilla shines some light on my constant childhood ear infections

  • The connection between immunity and emotions- boundaries, repression, and expression

  • The developmental leaps children make after being allowed to overcome disease on their own

  • Herd immunity cannot be created artificially 

  • The success that the Indian and Cuban governments have had with HP

  • Action steps for how to best support innate immune intelligence

In the Outro:

  • The three myths we assume are true when we talk about vaccines

  • Cell mediated v humoral immunity

  • The autoimmune disease epidemic

  • When measles came to my daughter's school

  • Our family's recent experience with pertussis (whooping cough)

  • A deeper look at herd immunity: chicken pox/shingles, pertussis, and measles



My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

Vaccines, Autoimmunity, and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illness by Thomas Cowan, MD

Miller's Review of Critical Vaccine Studies by Neil Z. Miller

Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk

The Vaccine Trade Off episode of the Wise Traditions podcast

High Dose Vitamin C for Pertussis webpage by Dr. Suzanne Humphries

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Healing Herb is your Plant Familiar? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

29. Otherworld Openings: When the Ancestors Call

In which I ramble about some of my ancestral resonances, the blocks I've had around exploring parts of my heritage, and what happens when we step through the portal to the Otherworld and let the magic in...

  • When different lineages call- following what pulls me in the moment

  • My deep ancestry in the American south, and the sense of home I feel even though I've never been there

  • Embarrassing confession: my first concert

  • Connecting to our ancestors through music and dance

  • My DNA results, how they've changed over time, and a comparison between the 3 different autosomal tests I've done (Ancestry.com, FamilyTreeDNA, LivingDNA) 

  • The best time to buy a DNA test

  • The 5th great grandparents I just found through Ancestry's cool new feature DNA Circles

  • A killer resource for old books on genealogy & myth/lore

  • Finding the meaning of surnames

  • When the portal to the Otherworld opens

  • A message for you from the archetype of the Seer



My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Healing Herb is your Plant Familiar? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

Forgotten Books

Ancestry.com's Surname Origins page

The Wildwood Tarot

 My 5th great grandmother, Millie Gilliland, born in North Carolina in 1800

My 5th great grandmother, Millie Gilliland, born in North Carolina in 1800

28. Seaweed: Deep Medicine for Earth, Ocean, & Humans - Angela Willard

The potent healing offered by seaweeds and mushrooms, the power of names, and the unique intelligence that lies beneath the surface of things...

In the Intro:

  • My recent mothering dilemma & resolution

  • Food to switch the body into a state of constant healing

  • Resources for further seaweed exploration


In the Interview:

  • Conscious conception, evolving as a family, & choosing a new experience

  • Naming children is giving them the strongest mantra they'll have throughout their lifetime

  • Letting the land you find yourself on guide you to your medicine

  • Seaweeds are regenerative cleansers for the ocean & earth- addressing the question of radioactivity and the safety of consuming seaweed

  • How to sustainably harvest seaweed

  • Breaking down the medicinal content of red, green, and brown seaweeds: which are immunomodulating, anti-viral, anti-parasitic, cancer fighting; helpful for digestion, thyroid issues, autoimmune diseases, liver issues, detoxification etc.

  • Nutrients in seaweed: amino acids, iron, iodine, minerals & more- how they work in the body and things to consider

  • The amazing regenerative, bioremedial, ecosystem healing properties of seaweed 

  • The Constellations approach as a divination practice

  • Connecting to the maternal grandmother that Angela never knew

  • The vital intelligence of sub-level (underground/under water) life forms

  • Food is medicine: hot tips for incorporating seaweeds and mushrooms into your daily life

  • The deep soul work that motherhood requires, and the challenges and gratifications that family life present



Angela & Yarrow Willard's website Harmonic Arts

My website MythicMedicine.love

Medicine Stories Patreon (podcast bonuses)

The Medicine Stories Facebook group

My fun Which Healing Herb is your Plant Familiar? quiz

Mythic Medicine on Instagram

Music by Mariee Sioux (from her beautiful song Wild Eyes)

27. Anti-Racist Genealogical Research (for Everyone) - Darla Antoine

People of color have limited genealogical resources with which to find their ancestors, while people of European descent's ancestors gave up their ethnic identities in order to become "white". Both of these outcomes, which have cut most Americans off from their roots, are a direct result of racism and white supremacy. In this interview we discuss the history of colonialism in America and its effect on ancestral knowledge, and Darla shares tips and considerations for POC engaged in genealogical research and for white folks wishing to make meaningful cultural reparations.


In the Intro: 

In the Interview:

  • Genealogy is America's favorite form of ancestral reverence (and the difference between genealogy and ancestry)

  • The story of Darla’s maternal indigenous grandmother and white grandfather

  • The construction of whiteness in early America

  • White bias in DNA tests and considerations for people of color interested in taking a test

  • The history of the One Drop rule for black folk and Blood Quantum for Native Americans

  • Ideas for people with settler ancestry who wish to make cultural reparations

  • Manifest Destiny & how oppressors need to make up myths for why they deserve to oppress people

  • Genealogy research self care ideas for people of color

  • Putting our personal family stories in a larger socio-historical context

  • Project ideas for making something tangible out of your genealogical research

  • Breaking down autosomal, mitochondrial, and Y chromosomal DNA and what those tests show

  • The importance of forming a research question when engaging in genealogical research


26. Ancestral Reverence as Devotion to the Earth - Daniel Foor

Your body is your ancestor altar, how hungry ghosts affect the living, the earth as the repository of ancestral wisdom, & more...

In the Intro:

  • Cleatus B. Wright , January 20, 1929 - February 27th, 1929

In the Interview:

  • The hunger for our ancestors

  • The story of Daniel's first ancestral connection, and the healing that followed

  • The ancestors are the collective wisdom of our species in all its beauty and trauma

  • Time collapses when in communion with the ancestors

  • Not all of the dead are equally well

  • The deeply embedded alcoholism in my fatherline

  • Addiction as the hunger of the dead moving through the bodies of the living, and the act of taking the substance as a form of ancestral communion

  • There are very few personal problems- a look at unmetabolized ancestral pain and systemic injustice

  • The dead can change

  • Ancestral forgetting as a function of the damage wrought by colonialism

  • We don't arrive at healing by exiling those who commit harm: an approach for white folks wishing to address their slave owning/colonizing/oppressive ancestral legacy (rather than ignoring it or living in perpetual guilt)

  • The role of the ancestors in social and earth justice

  • The interweaving of ritual, genealogical research, and healing

  • Synchronicity

  • They are shaking us awake in the burning house- the growing sense of urgency coming to us from the ancestors at this pivotal point in human history

  • The dead are in the earth, and the ancestors are animating the earth that is our bodies

  • Approaching activism in a more ritual oriented way

  • When a child is a returning of an ancestral lineage, mothering is my main form of ancestral reverence, and remembering that our children are the future ancestors of our further descendants

  • Are souls that die suddenly lost in limbo?

  • I ask Daniel a vulnerable question about my mom, who died in a car accident in November 2015

  • The most important way that we prepare for death is to be ethical and kind

  • Animism: living humans are just one kind of person / coming into relationship with the wider web of being


25. Self Attunement & the New Myths We're Making - Maia Toll

Herbalism is vast, the second song of a plant, a powerful stone medicine story, and more...

Maia Toll spent a life-changing year apprenticed to a traditional medicine woman in Ireland. She mentors spiritual wellness seekers, practitioners, and teachers through her online program, The Medicine Keepers Collective, and is the founder and owner of Herbiary, a natural products store with locations in Asheville, North Carolina, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Maia has taught botanical medicine at West Chester University and at the Amazon Center for Environmental Education and Research in the Peruvian jungle. She lectures at hospitals, universities, and herbal conferences and runs her own Deep Magic Retreat in the North Carolina mountains during the witchy twilight of autumn. She blogs to an international following at maiatoll.com and lives in Asheville, North Carolina.   

In the Intro:

  • Coming into relationship with nature

  • Become a kitchen witch

  • Herbalism is vast

In the Interview:

  • The layers within

  • A fantastical Herbal 

  • Opening to the second song of a plant 

  • How a health problem, an unraveling life, and a dream message set Maia on the plant path 

  • Apprenticing to a medicine woman in Ireland 

  • When having a diagnosis isn’t helpful

  • Deep self attunement for stopping illness before it becomes too big

  • A major weakness herbalists face when we’re ill 

  • The Healing Relationship

  • Stone medicine & a story of healing with morganite 

  •  How we create the sacred 

  • A meaningful swan sighting, union & transformation, and the myth of Caer

  • We talk about how neither of us wanted to get married and now we’re both wives, and also the stories of our wedding rings



24. Plant Spirits & Deep Remembering that Speaks to the Bones - Fay Johnstone

Fay Johnstone is a Shamanic Practitioner, Herbalist and Reiki Master with a passion for helping people and plants grow together. She believes that restoring our sacred relationship with the Earth and connecting to our natural environment, seasons and cycles is essential in order for us to maintain our vitality, health and well being. Fay is the author of the book Plants that Speak Souls that Sing, a guide to transforming your life with the spirit of plants, inspired by Fay's five years as an organic flower and herb farmer. It’s her goal to help us weave nature and enchantment back into our own lives to feel more in harmony with our true nature and sense of self. Fay offers workshops educating on Plant Spirit connection and Earth based ritual and shamanic treatments across the UK, online and from her home in Scotland.

In the Intro:

In the Interview:

  • Returning to an ancestral homeland and taking up ancestral activities
  • Being called by something invisible
  • When something that feels like failure turns out to be a blessing
  • How plants can connect us to the source of creativity
  • Giving ourselves the time and permission for inner exploration and play
  • Bringing enchantment and ritual to our relationship with plants
  • A deeply transformative mugwort medicine story
  • Generational forgetting & shame around using plant medicine
  • A vision/visitation from the great-grandmother that Fay never knew
  • Our bodies carry our stories
  • Meeting the spirit of plants with the breath
  • The benefits of not having a ton of plant knowledge
  • Bypassing the brain to get to the heart



23. The Profound Medicine of Herbal Body Oils

The simplest and most potent form of herbal medicine that I know, so easy to make yourself at home, so powerful and immediately relaxing... Herbal Body Oiling is an ancient, ancestral practice that the nervous systems of modern folk are in desperate need of.

For MUCH more check out episode 20 guest Kami McBride's FREE Healing Herbal Oils Online Workshop!

When we think about taking herbal medicine, we tend to picture teas, tinctures, or some other way of ingesting the medicinal benefits of the plant through the mouth. But the skin is our largest organ and is incredibly absorbent, with direct access to the nervous, lymphatic, and immune systems. By keeping the body hydrated with fat (oil) as opposed to water (like in lotion), we keep these systems nourished, running smoothly, and functioning at the highest possible level.

In this episode I talk about:

  • The simplest yet most profound form of herbal medicine

  • The healing effects of fat/oil on the nervous system

  • Carrier oils, fresh v dry plant infusions, how long to steep, etc.

  • Which fresh herb to use if you don’t have a garden & there’s nowhere to wildcraft

  • Medicinal specifics of lavender, calendula, St. John’s Wort, mugwort, and yarrow

  • Oiling for pregnancy, babies, children, and motherhood in general

  • Coming back to your self

  • Don’t get tripped up. Herbalism is your birthright. Just make an oil. Start where you are. It is enough. You are enough.

  • Scented plants = volatile oil content = antimicrobial action = longer lasting oil

  • Extending shelf life

  • Whole plant infused oils are much more medicinal than just adding essential oils to a carrier oil

  • The nervous system, being in a sympathetic dominant state (most of us are), and being an empath/Highly Sensitive Person

  • The lymphatic/immune system & breast massage

  • Self knowledge & being deeply familiar with the terrain of the only body you're ever gonna have

  • Practical tips & techniques for making herbal body oiling a part of your daily life

  • Oiling the face

  • Should you use heat and/or sunlight in herbal oil making?

  • The home remedy with the least amount of effort for maximum return

22. You Are Magic & Fear is Never the Truth - Yaya Erin Rivera Merriman

In the Intro:

  • Books to live by
  • Mitochondrial meanderings
  • The deep ancestry of all humans

In the interview:

  • The sound of the thing you are called by, and choosing a name with multilayered meaning
  • From outcast to leader
  • What being the daughter of an immigrant taught Yaya about communication & self expression
  • When you realize you're magic
  • Making the radical choice to express the way you really feel (that way, if people hate you, at least they hate the real you and not a false impression of who they assume you are) (also, that way, you attract the exact right people into your life)
  • Why dreams are real, our favorite dream teacher/writer, & how to work with your dreams (and nightmares)
  • Fear is never the truth
  • Magic, nature, and layers & layers of ancestral depth ("I feel like I have an intact ancestral identity in a way I didn't even three years ago")
  • Healing chronic pain
  • Sensory overload and how "there's a lot of undeniably magical things happening all the time, but life is loud"
  • Navigating the world as an empath/Highly Sensitive Person
  • A lot of chronic conditions are due to long term nervous system overwhelm
  • Herbal body oiling
  • How a radical diet change healed Yaya's endocrine (hormonal) and nervous system
  • It's good to do things that our ancestors would recognize from their time on earth
  • Shapeshifting mythical archetypes & fields of consciousness
  • Discovering your own relationship with the plant realm


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21. The Medicine We Carry - Lola Venado

In the Intro:

  • I share an ancestral story 
  • How I define spirituality
  • The food your bones are made from
  • Herbal body oils & elderberry elixir

In the Interview:

  • Being the the daughter of a secret witch + becoming a botanical bruja years after the mother passed and the chance to learn from her was gone
  • Racism, secrecy, lineage, and cultural evolution
  • Following the breadcrumbs to get a bigger picture of who your people were (there are more holes than solid information in all of our lineages)
  • Letting your silvers shine
  • Locating yourself within the myths of your ancestors
  • Being empowered to heal yourself
  • Listening to the understory- amplifying the voices of people of color within the worlds of herbalism, spirituality, and the creative arts
  • Comida es Medicina
  • Most magic is mundane
  • When women's knowing and/or calling out injustice are labeled "irrational"
  • What white folks are learning/dismantling right now


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20. Herbalism, Menstruation, & Innate Knowing - Kami McBride

In the Intro:

  • My number one herb book
  • My healing pilgrimage to the skull of a blue whale
  • I say somthing that's hard to say
  • Edible & Medicinal Flowers eBook
  • The dark places of the soul & sharing our stories

In the Interview:

  • The strong childhood memory, and teenage crisis, that started Kami on the plant path
  • Recalling the era when being an herbalist was an underground, misunderstood, frowned-upon thing
  • You never know where or when the seeds you plant will sprout
  • Bringing information to the culture so that it can later be mirrored back to our children (or loved ones) by someone other than us
  • Unspoken soul transmissions from the ancestors
  • How to extract ancestral stories from your living relatives (do it now!)
  • What you are seeking is also seeking you
  • We are downloading decades of ancestral information right now & it’s causing information overload- when do we know enough?- an ancestral strategy for simplifying our herb learning
  • You don’t have to know everything, too much information clogs the channels
  • Stepping into power as bleeding women
  • Healing menstrual shame & a look at the learned cultural practices of plugging and drugging (which, in the long run, just repress and create more pain)
  • How your blood & bleeding time reflects your state of health back to you
  • Aligning with the energy of your moon time- enhanced perception, clarity around boundaries, awareness of emotion
  • Menstruation is a truth serum
  • Sensitivity is what’s gonna save us
  • Women, exhaustion, and rest
  • One small change that has dramatically reduced PMS symptoms for many of the women Kami and I know (including me!)
  • Returning to our innate body wisdom 





19. Reclaiming Kitchen Wisdom & Ancestral Healing - Darla Antoine

Calling in the grandmothers! The more dependent we are on the industrialized food system- and the more entranced we are by diet culture- the further removed we are from our ancestors. Food is a bridge between the land, our bodies, and those whose bodies we come from.

Darla Antoine is a mixed race Okanagan tribal member, ancestral activist and healer, mother and accidental homesteader in the high mountains of Costa Rica. Darla helps mixed-race and mixed-culture seekers become rooted into place and lineage by combining her master's degree in food and culture, ancestral healing and her own experiences as a mixed race woman and expat.

In the Intro:

  • My unexpected, super transformative, podcast hiatus: shingles and a family emergency
  • Fat is love (and an absolutely necessary nutrient for the brain & every single cell in the body)
  • Giveaway!

In the Interview:

  • Ancestry that’s deeply embedded in the land
  • The Grandmother Hypothesis
  • How diet culture keeps us separated from our ancestors
  • Disordered eating & how the fear of fat is pushing us away from what it means to be human
  • To learn about your ancestor’s lives, look below the level of empire (& what that means)
  • Reclaiming kitchen wisdom as an act of resistance against the dominant, patriarchal, industrial food system
  • The medicine that people of mixed race are bringing to the world right now
  • Dreams as guideposts
  • A mythic matriarchal dreamscape
  • Charting serendipity: When you’re in the right story, nothing doesn’t fit


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18. Land Based Living, Mothering, & Eating - Suuzi Hazen

Our denatured modern culture doesn't work for our Paleolithic human bodies, as the epidemics of autoimmune issues, degenerative disease, and so many other modern health problems show us. Relearning what our ancestors knew about plants, animals, the land, and the human body in order to integrate that knowledge into today's world is a vital step toward health and wholeness.

This is an in-person conversation between two close friends, two mothers (Suuzi once nursed my baby for me y'all), two women trained in different forms of holistic healing who share an interest in ancestral wisdom and a commitment to honest vulnerability.

Suuzi Hazen runs a small mixed farm in Northern California, where she lives with her husband and sons. She has a Master's Degree in Oriental Medicine and a BA in English Literature and Women's Studies. Growing up in rural Canada, she spent her childhood outdoors exploring nature and enthralled by stories of her farming ancestors. She's fascinated by and very knowledgeable about traditional and aboriginal lifeways, especially regarding families, child rearing, hunting and foraging, nutrition, and sexuality. 

Best NOT to listen with kids in the room.

In the Intro:

  • Giveaway!

In the Interview:

  • How we met & accepting help as an exchange of energy
  • Sex & bodies & desire after having a baby and other realities of modern motherhood
  • How we've lost basic wisdom about health
  • The microbiome & the deep self (Dr. Zach Bush is everything)
  • Mitochondria & degenerative disease
  • Autoimmune issues are the new infectious disease
  • Everything that happens in your body has meaning & everything you do has an effect (damnit)
  • Modern Western medicine is LTRLY based on cadaver studies- dead bodies are considered baseline
  • Our food journeys- from processed food and industrialized agriculture to vegetarianism and veganism to traditional foods 
  • Ancestral food resonances 
  • My past with anxiety, depression, self harm, weight gain & loss, and the aftermath of my vegan pregnancy
  • Nursing babies literally deplete the minerals from your bones- deep nourishment is needed 
  • The illusion of human supremacy: there's not such a big difference between plant and animal consciousness
  • Nature is an ongoing life/death/life cycle and we all consume the bodies of other entities; as Susun Weed says, "Now I eat you, now you eat me"- we are not separate from nature
  • Animism as the oldest form of human spirituality
  • Distorted notions of clean v dirty food 
  • Why our ancestors and modern hunter gatherers prefer organ meat over muscle meat
  • A deep dive into the liver- human livers, animal livers, the functions and energetics of this vital organ
  • Food choices, food prices, food privilege 
  • Love languages and more on sex & motherhood (in which Suuzi introduces me to the word "choreplay")


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17. True Holistic Healing: Bridging Plant & Human Consciousness - Sajah Popham

The vital intelligence of nature is the force behind all growth, healing, and renewal, and our work as plant healers deepens greatly when we can match whole plants with whole people living inside the dynamic multiverse of the whole cosmos. 

One of the most common stumbling block upon the path of the budding herbalist is the this-herb-for-that-ailment approach to plant medicine. If you ever catch yourself asking "What's this plant good for?" then this mind blowing episode, and my guest Sajah's FREE online video course (which changed my life forever last year by deepening my understanding of what true healing is), is for you:

 Vitalist Herbalism Mini Course

Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is a student of the universal truths found within both ancient and modern herbal traditions from around the world. The focus of his work is on integrating ancient teachings for a new paradigm of plant medicine, one that is truly holistic in its honoring of the spirit, energetics, and body of both people and plants. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north and south, above and below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses Ayurveda, western alchemy and spagyrics, astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology. 

Sajah’s vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physiological healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness, for a truly holistic practice of plant medicine. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife Whitney where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his art.

In the Intro:

  • The way in which most of us (including me) are called to the plant path
  • It's time to remember who we are
  • The multidimensional medicine of Calendula
  • What I do when I want to remember new information forever
  • How understanding the ancient idea of vitalism changed my approach to plant healing

In the Interview:

  • The real definition of holistic medicine (it's probably not what you think it is)
  • Approaching plant relationships the way we approach human relationships
  • Why a balanced approach to herbal learning includes intellect, intuition, science, tradition, personal experience, and the experiences of others
  • The best way to get to know a plant
  • The two words that Sajah saw in a newspaper while clearing tables at a coffee shop job and how they changed his life forever
  • The role synchronicity played in introducing Sajah to one of his most beloved plant allies
  • Alchemy- the wholeness of the plant and the wholeness of the person integrated into the wholeness of the cosmos, and the importance using plants for the psyche and spirit as well as for the physical
  • Mythic astrology, the archetypes of the zodiac, and plants as bridges connecting our internal microcosm to the celestial macrocosm
  • Lung herbs and grief
  • Ancient ancestral resonances and the memory we carry in our DNA
  • The vitalist approach to herbalism- “something that is created by the whole is going to be more intelligent than something created by the part”
  • Plants mentioned include oregon grape root, devils club, wood betony, ceanothus, osha, and mullein

Show Notes:

15. Intuitive Whispers: Deep Memory & Woven Fate

What fate is your intuition calling you toward? Who do you walk with outside of time? With what and with whom are you most deeply interwoven?

This is the story of a flower I fell in love with and what happened when I made an essence with it. It's about intuitive connection with the earth, the ancestors, and your own deep self.

Show Notes:

Episode 4 guest Asia Suler's online Intuitive Plant Medicine course

My blog post Flower Essences are Story Medicine


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14. Reclaiming Yourself Through Nature & the Ancestors - Vicky Salcido-Cobbe

Our human roots go deep, both into the earth and into the past, and we cannot know ourselves if we don't know our roots. Yet most of us in the modern West feel adrift, cut off from those things which fundamentally belong to us and which have always sustained humanity. This sense of isolation and the loss of meaning causes us to feel lost, bereft, without purpose.

A lived, daily relationship with the natural world and an embodied connection with our ancestors are the birthright of every one of us, and more and more of us are reclaiming ourselves by reclaiming these simple, sacred things.

Vicky Salcido-Cobbe is an herbalist, gardener, teacher, writer, and the proud daughter of Mexican immigrants. After years of feeling lost to herself and engaging in self-destructive habits, her life changed in an instant when a clinician offered her a bottle of herbal extract as medicine. She and her husband Russ now work with the land to create small-scale remedies for their herbal apothecary La Tierra Buena Collective (formerly Grandmother’s Medicine.)

In the Intro:

  • The usual, plus my crying toddler
  • Herbal Medicine Giveaway from Vicky!
  • Sorry not sorry

In the Interview:

  • Names as seeds planted by our parents

  • The years Vicky was lost to herself (with some drugs and tall cans), and how she found herself again (with the moon and tall trees)

  • How having big, mystical experiences without proper integration can cause more confusion and pain 

  • How nature and the ancestors have always sustained humanity, why we feel so bereft when we lose connection with them, and how we find ourselves when we rekindle those relationships

  • How this suburban SoCal girl stumbled upon the plant path- “herbalism was the way I reclaimed myself”

  • The realities of running an herbal products business

  • (Random segue into One Weird Use for Breastmilk)

  • Dreaming about Wal-Mart (& what it means when you have mostly mundane dreams)

  • Vicky gets really really real about the evolution of her sexuality- masturbation, porn, the shameful stuff we don’t like to talk about in our culture- and being extremely candid with her husband now that she's figuring herself out

  • 70s v 90s porn

  • Why the dominant image and dynamic of women needing to please men and get their approval in order to gain entrance into a sexual relationship is the opposite of reality, the opposite of biology in most animal species, including humans, and is a dangerous paradigm that upends nature and hurts girls, women, boys, men, and everyone else

  • Vicky’s recent transition from embodying the maiden to mother archetype (without having physically birthed children)

Show Notes:


13. Psychedelic Healing: From Microdosing to Transcendence - Jim Fadiman

Safe, therapeutic, and sacred psychedelic journeys have the potential to enact profound transformation and healing on both a personal and a societal level. Many mistake these substances for party drugs, but their true medicine lies in the properly prepared and undertaken journey inward.

Scientists were just starting to understand the therapeutic benefits of LSD, psilocybin, and more in the 1960's when the many studies being done were suddenly shut down. Research is thriving again today, and we are beginning to understand their role in healing addiction, PTSD, anxiety and depression, and so much more.

James Fadiman has been at the forefront of this research for over 50 years. He is a writer and researcher with a PhD in Psychology and is the author of many books, including The Psychedelic Explorers Guide, which details how both journeyers and guides can create optimal conditions to have the best possible experience. Jim has also popularized the phenomenon of microdosing (taking tiny, sub-perceptual microdoses of psychedelic substances to enhance performance and treat ailments). 

In the Intro:

  • How Jim and I met
  • The amazing free resource Jim is making available to listeners

In the Interview:

  • That feeling when the future Ram Dass gives you LSD in Paris and changes your life forever
  • Ken Kesey, Albert Hoffman, Huston Smith and other heroes of mine who Jim knew
  • Why psychedelic research got shut down in the 60's and what was being researched then
  • How psychedelics work
  • How to have safe, therapeutic, and sacred journeys
  • Microdosing for: depression, colds, menstrual problems, asthma, allergies, stroke, and SO MUCH MORE
  • Dying is absolutely safe


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12. Folk Herbalism & the Wild Self - Jesse Wolf Hardin

Herbalism has always been the medicine of the people, but most of us in the West have been cut off from our earthbound roots and encouraged to forget our innate, ancestral ability to work and heal with plant medicines. Both despite and because of this, an herbal resurgence is slowly uprooting the dominant paradigm as ever more people heed the calling in their hearts to return to the old ways. No one has done more to share knowledge, encourage people of all skill levels, and bring folks together than Jesse Wolf Hardin (and his partner Kiva Rose).

Wolf is an acclaimed ecosopher, author, ecological and social activist, artist, musician, and historian– a champion of both human and bio diversity, as well as of nature’s medicine.  He has been a leading voice of and for the natural world for over four decades, coining the term “ReWilding” in the 1970's. He has been a featured presenter at hundreds of conferences and universities, and is the author of over 600 published articles in over 200 different publications and over 20 books, his work earning the praises of luminaries such as Gary Snyder, Terry Tempest Williams, Joanna Macy, Ralph Metzner, and Starhawk.


*How I met Wolf & Kiva

*Story medicine, psychedelic healing, witches & wise ones


*The Plant Healer vision and how it’s evolved

*A child’s life changing epiphany in an avocado tree at military school

*What re-wilding means, from the man who coined the now-ubiquitous word

*Folk herbalism and the infinite ways to walk the plant path

*The three books Wolf had with him when he came into the land he would go on to steward for the next four decades in New Mexico

*The recent planned unassisted home birth of Wolf and Kiva’s son of Ælfyn Wolfson Thorn Hardin

*The fabulous Good Medicine Confluence- “Any pretense of pretending it’s a conference is over”

*Helping plant people reclaim their own traditions

*Regulation and the assault on herbalism (and women) from the 1700’s to now

*Standing up for who we are as wild-hearted healers in a sterile society 

*How Wolf & Kiva met and why their partnership works and is so creatively productive

*The sense of enchantment that feeds those who follow their calling

*Balancing a rational and magical approach to herbalism


*Find Plant Healer Magazine, Herbaria newsletter, the Good Medicine Confluence, Wolf's books, and more at PlantHealer.org

*The Mythic Medicinals shop

*Medicine Stories Patreon 

*Medicine Stories Facebook Group

*Music by Mariee Sioux (from the song Wild Eyes)